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How stong are the humans buu arc?
Topic Started: Jan 17 2013, 08:02 PM (3,501 Views)
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Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
They are Heros. Look at tien is a hell of a lot weaker than Semi Cell yet he attacked him. Krillin attacked Perfect Cell and Got Kicked in the Head.... Krillin chanced attacking frieza when he was at a large disadvantage. Krillin tried to stand up to tambourine and died trying. Tien used up all of his reserves on Nappa, tien attack deflected buutenks when he was absolutely nowhere near buutenks.
Or that they just got really strong and wanted to test there new power seems more logical.
Or they are still weaker than 100% Frieza which is true...
its not true when there is more evidence humans > frieza.
What evidence?
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zenet
Jan 21 2013, 05:58 PM
jonte9195
Jan 21 2013, 03:25 PM
zenet
Jan 18 2013, 10:46 AM
jonte9195
Jan 18 2013, 12:26 AM
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Jan 18 2013, 12:21 AM
Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
They are Heros. Look at tien is a hell of a lot weaker than Semi Cell yet he attacked him. Krillin attacked Perfect Cell and Got Kicked in the Head.... Krillin chanced attacking frieza when he was at a large disadvantage. Krillin tried to stand up to tambourine and died trying. Tien used up all of his reserves on Nappa, tien attack deflected buutenks when he was absolutely nowhere near buutenks.
Or that they just got really strong and wanted to test there new power seems more logical.
Or they are still weaker than 100% Frieza which is true...
its not true when there is more evidence humans > frieza.
Like what?
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Jan 18 2013, 12:26 AM
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Jan 18 2013, 12:21 AM
Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
They are Heros. Look at tien is a hell of a lot weaker than Semi Cell yet he attacked him. Krillin attacked Perfect Cell and Got Kicked in the Head.... Krillin chanced attacking frieza when he was at a large disadvantage. Krillin tried to stand up to tambourine and died trying. Tien used up all of his reserves on Nappa, tien attack deflected buutenks when he was absolutely nowhere near buutenks.
Goku specifically said not to come if they didn't think they were up to it. Chaozu was left behind to show this.

How much clearer could it be? What is your reason for nerfing them? Does it contradict anything, them being stronger than Freeza.
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Jan 18 2013, 10:46 AM
jonte9195
Jan 18 2013, 12:26 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 18 2013, 12:21 AM
Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
They are Heros. Look at tien is a hell of a lot weaker than Semi Cell yet he attacked him. Krillin attacked Perfect Cell and Got Kicked in the Head.... Krillin chanced attacking frieza when he was at a large disadvantage. Krillin tried to stand up to tambourine and died trying. Tien used up all of his reserves on Nappa, tien attack deflected buutenks when he was absolutely nowhere near buutenks.
Or that they just got really strong and wanted to test there new power seems more logical.
Or they are still weaker than 100% Frieza which is true...
its not true when there is more evidence humans > frieza.
Like what?
read post 24.
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There is no compelling need for the humans to be as strong as Freeza, not when Tenshinhan's own words would indicate otherwise.

It seems the argument for it is simply because they showed up to fight, their strength has to be on par with an enemy well above SSJ Trunks. Well, it doesn't. Was it established in their preparation that they were to take turns battling them in a particular order, individually? No, Goku initiated that he fight them alone while already on the battlefield. For all intents and purposes, they were to engage in battle against them all at once, which they attempted to do after Goku started getting his energy drained.

The humans do not have to be that strong individually to make a difference. The fact that Freeza annihilated the Saiyans out of fear of them ganging up in opposition, despite meaning nothing to his power independently, speaks volumes over how it can decide an outcome of a battle. With Goku and Piccolo's power at the forefront, they wouldn't be lacking in too much confidence by joining in.
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There is no compelling need for the humans to be as strong as Freeza, not when Tenshinhan's own words would indicate otherwise.

It seems the argument for it is simply because they showed up to fight, their strength has to be on par with an enemy well above SSJ Trunks. Well, it doesn't. Was it established in their preparation that they were to take turns battling them in a particular order, individually? No, Goku initiated that he fight them alone while already on the battlefield. For all intents and purposes, they were to engage in battle against them all at once, which they attempted to do after Goku started getting his energy drained.

The humans do not have to be that strong individually to make a difference. The fact that Freeza annihilated the Saiyans out of fear of them ganging up in opposition, despite meaning nothing to his power independently, speaks volumes over how it can decide an outcome of a battle. With Goku and Piccolo's power at the forefront, they wouldn't be lacking in too much confidence by joining in.
Would you apply this same reasoning to Piccolo's power during the same period of time? That he had confidence because he assumed they'd be fighting together, this negating the implications that he would be far stronger than Freeza then?
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^^ yep, because he too was worried heading into the battle. Just because he went all stoic Namekian warrior on the battlefield doesn't mean he wasn't worried like Krillin on the way there. The only one seemingly over confident and shook to his core was Yamcha among the non-Saiyans whose DNA would get them up for this anyway
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There is two Androids, the Z warriors are expecting Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan with his rage to all gang up on 1 while Goku takes the other one out. Plus Tien's Neo Tri Beam is strong as freak.

If the humans were ahead of Frieza that makes them far stronger than the base saiyans and Vegeta would have made a comment on that. Stronger than Frieza Goku and weaker than Android base Goku is where I have everyone expect Yamacha who I have a little over 1 million.
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